smc Pentax-M 80-200mm F/4.5 [II]
Telephoto zoom lens • Film era • Discontinued
- Announced:
- · July 1982
- Production status:
- ● Discontinued
- Country of design:
- · Japan
- Original name:
- · ASAHI OPT. CO. SMC PENTAX-M ZOOM 1:4.5 80mm~200mm
- Class:
- · Slow full-frame telephoto zoom lens
- System:
- · Pentax K (1975)
Abbreviations
SMC | Multi-layer anti-reflection coating is applied to the surfaces of lens elements. This anti-reflection coating increases light transmission, eliminates flare and ghosting, and maintains color consistence among all lens models. |
M | A manual focus lens with automatic maximum aperture indexing, which is a mechanical system for coupling the lens to the camera's exposure system. More compact and lighter than the standard K-series counterpart, but with no sacrifice in quality of construction, resolution, durability or contrast. Learn more |
II | Second generation. |
Model history (3)
■smc Pentax 80-200mm F/4.5 • Push/pull | A | 15 - 12 | 1.60m | ⌀52 | 1977 ● | |
■smc Pentax-M 80-200mm F/4.5 [I] • Push/pull | A | 15 - 12 | 1.60m | ⌀52 | 1978 ● | |
■smc Pentax-M 80-200mm F/4.5 [II] • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 1.20m | ⌀52 | 1982 ● | |
—Takumar Bayonet 80-200mm F/4.5 • Push/pull | 1984 ● |
Specification
Optical design: | |
35mm full frame | |
80mm - 200mm [2.5X zoom ratio] | |
F/4.5 across the focal length range | |
12 elements in 9 groups | |
Pentax K [45.5mm] | |
30.3° @ 80mm - 12.3° @ 200mm (35mm full frame) | |
On Pentax K APS-C [1.53x] cameras: | |
35mm equivalent focal length range: | 122.4mm - 306mm (in terms of field of view) |
35mm equivalent speed range: | F/6.9 (in terms of depth of field) |
Diagonal angle of view: | 20° @ 80mm - 8.1° @ 200mm |
Diaphragm mechanism: | |
Diaphragm type: | Automatic |
Aperture control: | Aperture ring (Manual settings only) |
8 (eight) | |
Zooming: | |
Zoom mechanism: | Manual |
Zoom control: | Combined zoom/focusing ring |
Zoom type: | Push/pull (200mm → 80mm) |
Zooming method: | <No data> |
Focusing: | |
1.20m | |
<No data> | |
Focusing modes: | Manual focus only |
Manual focus control: | Combined zoom/focusing ring |
Physical characteristics: | |
615g | |
⌀68×146mm | |
Accessories: | |
Screw-type 52mm | |
Built-in telescopic round | |
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Sources of data
- Manufacturer's technical data.
- smc Pentax-A lenses operating manual.
- Pentax cameras booklet (PUB. 06091, 32 pages).
- Pentax lenses and accessories booklet (PUB. 06771) (April 1983).
- Pentax lenses & accessories - A Comprehensive and Versatile Photographic System booklet.
Manufacturer description
SMC Pentax Zoom-M 80mm - 200mm f/4.5 is another outstanding M compact lens which features a short barrel design, making it excellent for hand-held shooting. It's ideal for the quick action demands of news, sports and wildlife photography, for zeroing in on medium range subjects, and also for portraits and candid photography.
Pentax-M series
The second generation of lenses designed for Asahi Pentax 35mm SLR cameras with bayonet mount. Introduced with Asahi Pentax ME and MX in 1976.
- Miniaturized lenses with average 20% less weight and length than their standard SMC counterparts, but with no sacrifice in quality of construction, resolution, durability or contrast;
- Robust, all-metal design with recessed focusing distance scale;
- Fully automatic diaphragm;
- Support for TTL open-aperture metering;
- Extremely accurate manual focusing with rubberized focusing ring;
- Multi-layer anti-reflection coating.
Other telephoto zoom lenses in the Pentax K system
■Pentax K mount (11) | |||||||||
smc Pentax 45-125mm F/4 • Push/pull | A | 14 - 11 | 1.50m | 1975 ● | |||||
Takumar-A Zoom 70-200mm F/4 Macro • Push/pull | A | 11 - 9 | 0.70m | ⌀58 | 1989 ● | ||||
Pentax-A 70-200mm F/4 • Push/pull | A | 11 - 9 | 0.70m | ⌀58 | 1989 ● | ||||
Takumar-A Zoom 70-210mm F/4.5-5.6 • Push/pull | A | 10 - 7 | 1.10m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
smc Pentax-A 70-210mm F/4 • Push/pull | A | 13 - 10 | 1.20m | ⌀58 | 1983 ● | ||||
smc Pentax-M 75-150mm F/4 • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 1.20m | ⌀49 | 1979 ● | ||||
smc Pentax-A 80-200mm F/4.7-5.6 | A | 11 - 7 | 1.10m | ⌀49 | 1994 ● | ||||
smc Pentax 80-200mm F/4.5 • Push/pull | A | 15 - 12 | 1.60m | ⌀52 | 1977 ● | ||||
smc Pentax-M 80-200mm F/4.5 [I] • Push/pull | A | 15 - 12 | 1.60m | ⌀52 | 1978 ● | ||||
smc Pentax 85-210mm F/4.5 • Push/pull | A | 11 - 10 | 3.50m | ⌀58 | 1975 ● | ||||
smc Pentax 85-210mm F/3.5 • Push/pull | A | 12 - 11 | 3.50m | ⌀67 | 1976 ● |
Lenses with similar focal length range
■Pentax K mount (92) | |||||||||
Chinar 85-210mm F/4.5 Macro | A | 12 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀58 | ● | ||||
Chinar 80-205mm F/4.5 [M.C] Macro • Push/pull | A | 13 - 9 | 1.30m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
Chinon Auto 80-200mm F/4.5 MC • Push/pull | A | 13 - 10 | 1.00m | ⌀52 | 1982 ● | ||||
Chinon Auto 70-210mm F/3.8 MC • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 1.20m | ⌀58 | 1982 ● | ||||
Cosina 70-210mm F/4.5-5.6 MC Macro • Push/pull akaMiranda 70-210mm F/4.5-5.6 MC Macro akaPhoenix 70-210mm F/4.5-5.6 Macro akaVivitar 70-210mm F/4.5-5.6 MC Macro | A | 10 - 7 | 1.30m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
Cosina Cosinon-Z 80-200mm F/4.5 MC • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀52 | 1981 ● | ||||
Cosina Cosinon 70-210mm F/3.5 MC Macro • Push/pull | A | 14 - 10 | 2.00m | ⌀67 | 1978 ● | ||||
Hanimex Auto 80-200mm F/4 MC Macro • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 1.50m | ⌀55 | ● | ||||
Hanimex Automatic 80-200mm F/4.5 MC C-Macro • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
Kino Precision Kiron 70-210mm F/4.5 MC Macro • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 1.30m | ⌀55 | 1985 ● | ||||
Kino Precision Kiron 70-210mm F/4 MC Macro Type 1 • Push/pull | A | 13 - 9 | 1.50m | ⌀62 | 1982 ● | ||||
Kino Precision Kiron 70-210mm F/4 MC Macro Type 2 • Push/pull | A | 13 - 9 | 1.50m | ⌀62 | 1983 ● | ||||
Kino Precision Kiron 80-200mm F/4 MC Macro • Push/pull | A | 12 - 8 | 1.30m | ⌀55 | 1980 ● | ||||
Kino Precision Kiron 80-200mm F/4.5 MC Macro Type 1 • Push/pull | A | 11 - 8 | 1.30m | ⌀55 | 1982 ● | ||||
Kino Precision Kiron 80-200mm F/4.5 MC Macro Type 2 • Push/pull | A | 11 - 8 | 1.30m | ⌀55 | 1982 ● | ||||
P. Angenieux 70-210mm F/3.5 | A | 15 - 11 | 0.86m | ⌀62 | 1982 ● | ||||
Panagor Auto Tele 80-200mm F/3.8 PMC • Push/pull | A | 13 - 9 | 1.00m | ⌀58 | ● | ||||
Panagor Auto Tele 80-200mm F/4.5 PMC Macro • Push/pull | A | 13 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀55 | ● | ||||
Quantaray Auto 85-210mm F/3.8 MC Macro | A | ? - ? | 2.50m | ⌀58 | ● | ||||
Quantaray Auto 80-200mm F/5.6 MC • Push/pull | A | ? - ? | 1.50m | ⌀49 | ● | ||||
Quantaray Auto 75-200mm F/4.5 MC Macro • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀55 | 1981 ● | ||||
Quantaray 80-200mm F/4.5 MC Close Focus • Push/pull | A | ? - ? | 1.10m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
Quantaray Auto 80-205mm F/4.5 Multi-Coated • Push/pull | A | ? - ? | 2.00m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
Quantaray Auto 80-200mm F/3.8 MC Macro • Push/pull | A | ? - ? | 1.80m | ⌀58 | ● | ||||
Quantaray 80-200mm F/3.8 Multi-Coated • Push/pull | A | ? - ? | 1.20m | ⌀58 | ● | ||||
Ricoh Rikenon 70-210mm F/3.9 Macro • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 1.20m | ⌀58 | ● | ||||
Ricoh Rikenon P 70-210mm F/4.5-5.6 Macro • Push/pull | A | 10 - 7 | 1.14m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
Ricoh Rikenon P 70-210mm F/4-5.6 Macro • Push/pull | A | 12 - 8 | 1.30m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
Ricoh Rikenon P 70-210mm F/3.9 Macro • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 1.20m | ⌀58 | 1984 ● | ||||
Samyang Auto 70-210mm F/4-5.6 MC Type 1 • Push/pull | A | 12 - 10 | 1.50m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
Samyang Auto 80-200mm F/3.9 MC • Push/pull | A | 13 - 9 | 1.30m | ⌀55 | ● | ||||
Samyang Auto 80-200mm F/4-5.6 MC • Push/pull | A | 14 - 10 | 1.10m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
Samyang Auto 70-210mm F/4-5.6 MC Type 2 • Push/pull | A | 12 - 8 | 1.30m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
Komura-FX 70-210mm F/4.5 K·M·C • Push/pull | A | 13 - 9 | 1.70m | ⌀58 | 1980 ● | ||||
Komuranon 80-210mm F/4.5 K·M·C • Push/pull | A | 12 - 8 | 1.90m | ⌀62 | 1975 ● | ||||
Sigma-XQ MF High Speed Zoom 80-200mm F/3.5 Multi-Coated | A | 14 - 10 | 1.80m | ⌀58 | 1975 ● | ||||
Sigma MF 70-210mm F/4-5.6 UC-II ZEN | A | 13 - 9 | 1.20m | ⌀55 | 1995 ● | ||||
Sigma MF 70-210mm F/4-5.6 UC Multi-Coated ZEN • Push/pull | A | 13 - 9 | 1.20m | ⌀52 | 1989 ● | ||||
Sigma MF 70-210mm F/4-5.6 APO UC ZEN • Push/pull | A | 14 - 11 | 1.20m | ⌀52 | 1992 ● | ||||
Sigma MF 75-200mm F/2.8-3.5 Multi-Coated III • Push/pull akaQuantaray 75-200mm F/2.8-3.5 Multi-Coated | A | 13 - 10 | 1.20m | ⌀67 | 1985 ● | ||||
Sigma MF 75-210mm F/3.5-4.5 Multi-Coated III • Push/pull | A | 11 - 8 | 1.50m | ⌀52 | 1985 ● | ||||
Sigma MF High Speed Zoom 80-200mm F/3.5-4 Multi-Coated • Push/pull | A | 12 - 8 | 1.50m | ⌀52 | 1980 ● | ||||
Sigma MF 70-210mm F/4.5 Multi-Coated II • Push/pull akaQuantaray 70-210mm F/4.5 Multi-Coated | A | 12 - 9 | 1.00m | ⌀52 | 1983 ● | ||||
Sigma MF 70-210mm F/3.5-4.5 APO Multi-Coated • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 1.50m | ⌀52 | 1986 ● | ||||
Sigma MF 70-210mm F/4-5.6 Multi-Coated • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 1.50m | ⌀52 | 1987 ● | ||||
Sigma MF 75-200mm F/3.8 Multi-Coated • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 1.20m | ⌀55 | 1987 ● | ||||
Sigma MF 80-200mm F/4.5-5.6 Multi-Coated • Push/pull | A | ? - ? | 1.00m | ⌀52 | 1985 ● | ||||
Sigma MF High-Speed Zoom 80-200mm F/3.5 Multi-Coated • Push/pull | A | 14 - 10 | 1.80m | ⌀62 | ● | ||||
Soligor C/D 80-200mm F/4.5 MC Macro (s/n 3xxxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀55 | ● | ||||
Soligor C/D Auto Zoom 70-222mm F/3.5 MC Macro (s/n 3xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 13 - 9 | 1.80m | ⌀67 | ● | ||||
Soligor C/D 85-205mm F/3.8 MC Macro (s/n 3xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 2.50m | ⌀62 | 1981 ● | ||||
Soligor C/D 70-210mm F/3.5 MC Macro (s/n 3xxxxxxx) | A | 14 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀62 | ● | ||||
Soligor C/D 70-210mm F/3.5 [MC] (s/n 1xxxxxxx) | A | 12 - 9 | 1.50m | ⌀67 | ● | ||||
Soligor C/D 70-220mm F/3.5 [MC] (s/n 1xxxxxxx) • Push/pull akaSpiratone Auto 70-220mm F/3.5 Pluracoat Macro | A | 15 - 12 | 1.50m | ⌀72 | ● | ||||
Soligor C/D 80-200mm F/3.5 (s/n 7xxxxxx) | A | 12 - 8 | 2.00m | ⌀62 | ● | ||||
Soligor 85-205mm F/3.8 (s/n 3xxxxxx) | A | 12 - ? | 1.70m | ⌀62 | ● | ||||
Soligor 85-205mm F/3.8 Macro (s/n 1xxxxxx) | A | 13 - 9 | 2.50m | ⌀58 | ● | ||||
Soligor 85-205mm F/3.8 (s/n 7xxxxxx) | A | ? - ? | 2.50m | ⌀58 | ● | ||||
Soligor Auto Zoom 75-205mm F/3.5 Macro (s/n 9xxxxxx) | A | ? - ? | 2.00m | ⌀62 | ● | ||||
Soligor C/D 78-210mm F/3.5 (s/n 4xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | ? - ? | 2.00m | ⌀62 | ● | ||||
Spiratone 80-205mm F/3.9 Pluracoat | A | 12 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀58 | ● | ||||
Tokina 80-200mm F/4 RMC • Push/pull akaVoigtlander Color-Zoomar 80-200mm F/4 MC | A | 12 - 9 | 1.90m | ⌀55 | ● | ||||
Tokina 80-200mm F/4.5 RMC • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
Tokina 70-210mm F/3.5 RMC • Push/pull | A | 14 - 10 | 1.40m | ⌀62 | 1980 ● | ||||
Tokina 80-200mm F/3.5-4.5 RMC • Push/pull | A | ? - ? | 1.10m | ⌀55 | 1984 ● | ||||
Tokina SZ-X 80-200mm F/4.5-5.6 • Push/pull | A | 11 - 8 | 1.50m | ⌀49 | ● | ||||
Tokina SD 70-210mm F/4-5.6 • Push/pull | A | 12 - 8 | 1.30m | ⌀52 | 1985 ● | ||||
Tokina 70-210mm F/4.5-5.6 • Push/pull | A | 12 - 8 | 1.10m | ⌀49 | ● | ||||
Tokina 80-200mm F/4.5 • Push/pull | A | 9 - 7 | 1.10m | ⌀55 | ● | ||||
Tokina 70-220mm F/3.5 RMC Macro • Push/pull | A | 16 - 12 | 1.50m | ⌀72 | ● | ||||
Tokina 70-210mm F/3.5 RMC | A | 12 - 9 | 1.50m | ⌀67 | ● | ||||
Tokina SZ-X 70-210mm F/4-5.6 • Push/pull | A | 12 - 8 | 1.30m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
Vivitar Series 1 Auto 70-210mm F/3.5 [VMC] Macro [I] (s/n 22xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 15 - 10 | 2.00m | ⌀67 | 1973 ● | ||||
Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm F/2.8-4 Q-Dos VMC Macro [III] (s/n 09xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 14 - 11 | 1.10m | ⌀58 | 1991 ● | ||||
Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm F/2.8-4 VMC Macro [I] (s/n 28xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 14 - 10 | 0.80m | ⌀62 | 1984 ● | ||||
Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm F/3.5 VMC Macro [II] (s/n 37xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 14 - 10 | 1.20m | ⌀62 | 1978 ● | ||||
Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm F/2.8-4 VMC Macro [II] (s/n 09xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 14 - 11 | 1.10m | ⌀58 | 1987 ● | ||||
Vivitar 75-205mm F/3.8 MC Macro (s/n 22xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 12 - 8 | 1.20m | ⌀62 | 1979 ● | ||||
Vivitar 80-200mm F/4.5 MC Macro (s/n 77xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 1.50m | ⌀55 | 1982 ● | ||||
Vivitar 80-200mm F/4.5 MC (s/n 28xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 10 - 7 | 2.00m | ⌀58 | ● | ||||
Vivitar 75-205mm F/3.5-4.5 MC Macro (s/n 37xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 13 - 9 | 1.00m | ⌀55 | 1982 ● | ||||
Vivitar 70-210mm F/4.5 MC Macro (s/n 77xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 1.60m | ⌀52 | 1982 ● | ||||
Vivitar 70-210mm F/4.5-5.6 MC Macro [I] (s/n 09xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 12 - 8 | 1.50m | ⌀52 | 1986 ● | ||||
Vivitar 75-200mm F/4.5 MC Macro (s/n 42xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 1.50m | ⌀55 | 1986 ● | ||||
Vivitar Auto 75-205mm F/3.8 Close Focusing (s/n 22xxxxxx) | A | 15 - 10 | 2.00m | ⌀58 | 1976 ● | ||||
Vivitar Auto 80-200mm F/4.5 (s/n 22xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀55 | 1978 ● | ||||
Vivitar Auto 80-200mm F/4.5 (s/n 28xxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 10 - 7 | 1.80m | ⌀62 | 1980 ● | ||||
Vivitar Auto 85-205mm F/3.8 Macro / Close Focusing (s/n 22xxxxxx) | A | 13 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀58 | 1975 ● | ||||
Vivitar Auto [Tele-]Zoom 85-205mm F/3.8 (s/n 22xxxxxx) | A | 13 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀58 | 1969 ● | ||||
Vivitar 70-210mm F/4.5-5.6 MC Macro (s/n 61xxxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 12 - 8 | 1.30m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
Vivitar 70-210mm F/4.5-5.6 MC Macro [II] (s/n 9xxxxxxx) • Push/pull | A | 10 - 7 | 1.30m | ⌀52 | ● | ||||
Leonar Auto 70-210mm F/3.8 MC Macro • Push/pull | A | 12 - ? | 1.50m | ⌀58 | ● | ||||
■Interchangeable mount (20) | |||||||||
Panagor Tele 85-205mm F/3.8 [T] | P | 13 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀58 | ● | ||||
Polaris Auto 80-210mm F/3.5 [YS] | A | 17 - 10 | 2.00m | ⌀67 | ● | ||||
Komuranon 80-200mm F/4 K·M·C [Unidapter Auto] • Push/pull | A | 14 - 10 | 1.50m | ⌀52 | 1980 ● | ||||
Sigma[-XQ] MF System Zoom 80-200mm F/3.5 Multi [Coat] [YS] | A | 14 - 12 | 1.80m | ⌀62 | 1974 ● | ||||
Granit-11A 80-200mm F/4.5 [T] | P | 11 - 9 | 1.50m | ⌀58 | 1980 ● | ||||
Tamron SP 70-210mm F/3.5-4 MC CF Tele Macro 52A [Adaptall-2] | A | 16 - 15 | 0.75m | ⌀58 | 1979 ● | ||||
Tamron SP 70-210mm F/3.5 MC CF Macro 19AH [Adaptall-2] • Push/pull | A | 15 - 11 | 0.85m | ⌀62 | 1984 ● | ||||
Tamron 70-210mm F/3.8-4 46A [Adaptall-2] • Push/pull | A | 12 - 9 | 0.90m | ⌀58 | 1986 ● | ||||
Tamron 80-210mm F/3.8-4 MC CF Tele Macro 03A [Adaptall-2] • Push/pull | A | 12 - 10 | 0.90m | ⌀58 | 1979 ● | ||||
Tamron 80-210mm F/3.8-4 MC CF Tele Macro 103A [Adaptall-2] • Push/pull | A | 13 - 10 | 0.90m | ⌀58 | 1981 ● | ||||
Tamron 70-210mm F/4-5.6 58A [Adaptall-2] • Push/pull | A | 13 - 9 | 1.10m | ⌀52 | 1988 ● | ||||
Tamron 70-210mm F/4-5.6 158A [Adaptall-2] • Push/pull | A | 13 - 9 | 1.10m | ⌀52 | 1991 ● | ||||
Tamron Auto 70-220mm F/3.8 Z-220 [Adaptall] | A | 14 - 11 | 2.50m | ⌀62 | 1973 ● | ||||
Tamron 85-210mm F/4.5 Z-210 [Adaptall] | A | 12 - 9 | 1.79m | ⌀55 | 1973 ● | ||||
Tamron 85-210mm F/4.5 CZ-210M [Adaptall] | A | 12 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀55 | 1976 ● | ||||
Tamron 85-210mm F/4.5 QZ-210M [Adaptall] | A | 12 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀55 | 1978 ● | ||||
Tamron Auto 70-220mm F/4 [Adapt-A-Matic] | A | 14 - 11 | 2.00m | ⌀67 | 1969 ● | ||||
Tamron Auto 85-205mm F/3.5 [Adapt-A-Matic] | A | 14 - 12 | 2.00m | ⌀62 | 1972 ● | ||||
Vivitar Tele Zoom 85-205mm F/3.8 (s/n 22xxxxxx) [T] | P | 13 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀58 | 1968 ● | ||||
Vivitar Tele Zoom 85-205mm F/3.8 [T] | P | 13 - 9 | 2.00m | ⌀58 | 1966 ● |
Comments (1)
Anyone happen to know at what serial number was the break between type 1 and type 2? Can’t seem to discern any differences between the 2, except the picture here has only horizontal lines at the end of the lens barrel and type 1’s seem to have a cross hatch (vertical & horizontal) at end of lens barrel. Although, I’ve checked pictures on ebay(lot of them for sale there, and all but one, from beginning serial 608xxxx to 802xxxx seem to be cross hatched, I couldn’t see serial on the one that only has the horizontal lines,but have asked the seller to provide it.